tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post1698702423125831474..comments2024-02-18T01:56:38.508-06:00Comments on M.D.O.D.: Acid Rain vs. Global Warming911DOChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-21147110465377879532010-02-18T19:01:54.629-06:002010-02-18T19:01:54.629-06:00Fact: Lake Placid is one of the best trout fisheri...Fact: Lake Placid is one of the best trout fisheries in northern New York. Get your facts straight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-72570004640626773542010-01-08T10:30:53.775-06:002010-01-08T10:30:53.775-06:00CountryRat, Al Gore solved the ozone problem when ...CountryRat, Al Gore solved the ozone problem when he banned my Albuterol inhaler. Now that all of us asthmatics are puffing away on Ventolin, the earth is safe until threatened by another environmental disaster. It just sucks to be a poor innercity kid where the asthma is bad...can't afford that extra $30 for that inhaler...so we get the added bonus of natural selection thinning the population.Amelia Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296224743117560163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-74306322126251984112010-01-06T18:53:57.869-06:002010-01-06T18:53:57.869-06:00And while we are on the subject, what ever happene...And while we are on the subject, what ever happened to the "ozone hole?" Remember, about twenty years ago, when we were all going be made blind and covered with melanomas by the unfiltered UV light bombarding us because we were destroying the ozone layer? Then, puff! The certain disaster of hopoozonic death just vanished to make room for the next ecological catastrophe. I wonder what it will be in another 20 years. Oh, wait. It doesn't mater because those cleaver Myans set the cosmic alarm clock for December 21, 2012. Well then, whats the fuss?CountyRathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228262536418983673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-20824153367639516372010-01-05T20:08:01.697-06:002010-01-05T20:08:01.697-06:00I think the acid rain has been measured to be 3.3 ...I think the acid rain has been measured to be 3.3 to 4.1... That's pretty low guysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-91235323231627760352010-01-05T20:05:14.748-06:002010-01-05T20:05:14.748-06:00the great lakes will be gone in 12,000 years. An...the great lakes will be gone in 12,000 years. And I think we are statistically speaking.... close to a magnetic shift of the earth in the next 50-200 yearsladyk73noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-25303892074696166252010-01-05T20:03:36.144-06:002010-01-05T20:03:36.144-06:00Ever been do lake placid? The Adirondack lakes ar...Ever been do lake placid? The Adirondack lakes are dead, and are still dying. As a kid, I rowed a little boat in one of the lakes...there are no fish, no plants...nothing. It is still going on. Just the perfect storm of geography and weather patterns. <br /><br />I believe, based on scientific evidence, that global warming is happening. I also beleive that it is insignificant to the earth... Ice age, global warming... The earth will survive on.... some of our cities? They will not survive. NYC, New orleans....don't invest in real estate there!!!!ladyk73noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-41555645895917445682009-12-30T12:21:22.606-06:002009-12-30T12:21:22.606-06:00Less alkaline does not mean more acidic . Above 7 ...Less alkaline does not mean more acidic . Above 7 it is alkaline and below acidic with 7 being neutral. The oceans are considered to have a pH of 8.2 with a variance of 0.3, so it is an alkaline solution. JOHN HEILPRIN knows this but using the word "ACID" is far more scarier then less alkaline.wilbert Robichaudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-50890365512518025782009-12-30T07:57:58.447-06:002009-12-30T07:57:58.447-06:00Whats so bad about Acid anyway???
Acids help di...Whats so bad about Acid anyway???<br /> Acids help digest our food, keeps your car battery strong, shifts your Hb/Oxygen dissociation curve to the right, facilitating oxygen unloading in vital organs, and totally blows your mind in picogram doses...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-42675814990438918952009-12-30T07:48:04.946-06:002009-12-30T07:48:04.946-06:00911 ate Spam, solely to frustate my entrepreneural...911 ate Spam, solely to frustate my entrepreneural efforts. Spam is a fine sequesterer of carbon, sitting on the shelf forever. Its consumption and metabolism will undoubtedly impact the bicarbonate buffer that protects us from melting.CJrunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04625747621619142198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-74790178086672481452009-12-29T23:46:58.594-06:002009-12-29T23:46:58.594-06:00At DocV's link, here is the quote I like.
&qu...At DocV's link, here is the quote I like.<br /><br />"The average acidity of oceans' surface water is estimated to increase measurably by the end of the century and will affect marine life, according to Peter Brewer, a senior scientist at the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute.<br /><br />"The total quantity of carbon dioxide that we've put into the oceans today is around 530 billion tons," Brewer told journalists on a fall fellowship program with the Honolulu-based East-West Center. "Now, it's going up at about 1 million tons an hour. You can't keep doing that without it having some impact."<br /><br />So, this change that will kill the oceans is not now measurable, but probably will be in 100 years. This entire article is about a report that ran some computer models and now predicts disaster 100+ years out. I wonder if that computer model also considers how carbon is used in the ocean, such as for building marine shells. We may never know, until those models and data are given a good thrashing by open scientific review, not just flimsy peer review.<br /><br />After **all the carbon we have pumped into the atmosphere** they don't have a measurable change in the ocean, although it absorbs 25% of the output. Regardless, lets cut our fuel use by 90% and only eat the vegetables we can grow within 10 miles of where we live. (smile)Andrew_M_Garlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02855052302054611917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-63875140745917296922009-12-29T22:27:18.173-06:002009-12-29T22:27:18.173-06:00My favorite environmentalism site.My <a href="http://www.econot.com/" rel="nofollow">favorite</a> environmentalism site.PeggyUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-92015985423443039922009-12-29T20:14:11.037-06:002009-12-29T20:14:11.037-06:00911, they can watch this to brush up on the sensat...911, they can watch this to brush up on the sensationalist lingo: Ep 47, "The Coming Ice Age," first aired in 1978. <br />http://epguides.com/InSearchOf/ hee hee.<br /><br />Here's a YouTube with cites to Science magazine from the 1970's which speculate that warming from CO2 emissions is helping stave off a new ice age (oops did I just use the e word in a thread where Dr Frank is watching) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttLBqB0qDko but turn off your sound first. <br /><br />Anyone else bored to Hell by global warming wank? Honestly, people are so fanatical about it in real life that I just try to avoid the topic, all squidlike.jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-22692049233923835012009-12-29T19:26:38.467-06:002009-12-29T19:26:38.467-06:00And thus goes the fear machine. I guess even globa...And thus goes the fear machine. I guess even global cooling isn't off the table. I give 'em four months before a "major change" in the climate change game to the "cooling" side of the argument. You read it here first.911DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-9334034300543237112009-12-29T19:22:46.778-06:002009-12-29T19:22:46.778-06:00re ACID RAIN
Ask and yee shall receive/ you find ...re ACID RAIN <br />Ask and yee shall receive/ you find what you are looking for.<br />Acid oceans http://www.physorg.com/news180344477.html<br />Acid oceans: the 'evil twin' of climate change<br />December 18, 2009 By JOHN HEILPRINMark p.s.2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10529811159862096782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-27824959952984467172009-12-29T18:47:25.325-06:002009-12-29T18:47:25.325-06:00[img]http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/glitters...[img]http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/glitters/a/acid_rain_burns-4680.gif [/img]DocVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16483040895334747291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-88653019697042635042009-12-29T16:39:27.478-06:002009-12-29T16:39:27.478-06:00Anon
Back in the stone age we were taught that t...Anon<br /> Back in the stone age we were taught that the whole concept of science was to view a colleague's experiment results with uncertainty, and to view your own results with doubt. What I find in today's version of science seems to be an attitude of alarmism ... the louder the alarm the better the science. <br /> Since we are using populist wikipedia laws to illustrate, allow me to cite Michael Crichton (god rest his soul) who described an axis of scientist - media - government and the incestuous relationship. Scientists find some data that may or may not have dangerous implications, feed it to the media that amplify the alarmist components, that scare the people(government) that in turn, funds the scientists who got the ball rolling. Scientists now have publicists, and often government chooses science advisors for political reasons and media charm. My favorite speech from Crichton's website can be found at http://www.crichton-official.com/speech-complexity.html<br />My favorite quote:<br /><br /> "Increasingly it seems facts aren't necessary, because the tenets of environmentalism are all about belief. It's about whether you are going to be a sinner, or saved. Whether you are going to be one of the people on the side of salvation, or on the side of doom. Whether you are going to be one of us, or one of them."<br /><br />Yes, anon, all of those societies and organizations do agree with the concept of global warming. ( I guess now it is "climate change") In fact I also agree, in a similar fashion as @Andrew_M_Garland, and man is contributing, but to a lesser degree than the media is portraying.<br /><br />And let me leave you with this disjointed thought. If you believe our literature, and the consensus of medical academia, then more narcotics will lower the pain scale. And thus, we should treat pain scales aggressively with liberal amounts of narcotics. Am I a heretic if I do not believe the literature and consensus, because I believe the data and methodology are flawed? After all, there is consensus.iglooDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391962122304796062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-79382586150826597582009-12-29T14:30:17.751-06:002009-12-29T14:30:17.751-06:00Love Godwin's Law... Perhaps a bit audacious t...Love Godwin's Law... Perhaps a bit audacious to call it a "law" but I bet it's hard to disprove... Just like Hitler, you Nazi.911DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-74388888295989956432009-12-29T14:14:13.848-06:002009-12-29T14:14:13.848-06:00*Not the Anon that others are fighting*
Anti-Warm...*Not the Anon that others are fighting* <br />Anti-Warming Anon...if you will.<br /><br />2 Things - We have now reached, at 21 comments, the realization of Godwin's Law (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) with Amy's comment (sorry had to bust you, but I still laughed cause it's true) and Anon is proving that with most liberal, populist bullshit the first of Clarke's Three Laws (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/clarke's_three_laws). It seems that most of my conservative or libertarian peers are willing to accept the presence of dissenting opinions and even regard them as valid given that they are formed on rational, objective arguments and not emotions. None of us argue that heavy metals in the water are bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-37424069539809127032009-12-29T12:57:32.527-06:002009-12-29T12:57:32.527-06:00I get it anon! You're "just following ord...I get it anon! You're "just following orders." Where have we heard that before??? Nuremberg anyone?Amelia Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296224743117560163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-73580104475583541182009-12-29T12:20:32.321-06:002009-12-29T12:20:32.321-06:00David St. Hubbins: I believe virtually everything ...David St. Hubbins: I believe virtually everything I read, and I think that is what makes me more of a selective human than someone who doesn't believe anything.911DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-4274994051968782662009-12-29T11:02:43.659-06:002009-12-29T11:02:43.659-06:00Anon said:" I am not a climitologist" wh...Anon said:" I am not a climitologist" which of course is not true. but with these folks we have to accept how they think. Up is down, Cold is warm,less ice is more ice and a lie is the truth. it Claim not to have watch Al Gores film but does not know that "American Meteorological Society" is ...American Meteorological Society primary spokesman is Anthony Socci who is neither an elected official of the AMS nor a contributor to climate science. Rather, he is a former staffer for Al Gore .AMS president Tom Karl who has no MD nor PHD but calls Himself Dr Tom Karl. Tom Karl is another one of Al Gore friends nominated to the AMS.wilbert Robichaudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-62029004299235814052009-12-29T08:22:58.425-06:002009-12-29T08:22:58.425-06:00dear anon.,
wow, now i understand. you are too sma...dear anon.,<br />wow, now i understand. you are too smart to keep up because of the depth required in your studies 'in the medical field'. then let me explain the nazi thing because it's quite unfair when improperly used but here goes. <br />alfred rosenberg was the author of the nazi regime's 'science' of racial superiority. he acted on orders of hitler to create a 'science' that could be used to further the political purposes of the nazis and that's what drove thousands of 'nazi scientists' to do all kinds of measurements (nose to lip angle, forehead breadth, weird shit like that...) to determine if one was fit to live in the master race or not. <br />so, to tie it all up, for a really smart kinda scientist like you who is so busy reading in your own area (can't wait to find out what it is by the way!) it would be an easy thing to fall for the official government scientific consensus that jews were inferior and dangerous and therefore you, yes you, would have believed it and would have either passively accepted the 'final solution' or happily participated in it. <br />you win the douchebag of the month award at MDOD... are you CannedAm?911DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-29926439949099683082009-12-29T07:32:58.667-06:002009-12-29T07:32:58.667-06:00I will be offering Polar Bear/Baby Seal BBQ Starte...I will be offering Polar Bear/Baby Seal BBQ Starter Sticks, made from tightly wrapped beautiful wallpapers!CJrunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04625747621619142198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-49621826638239952572009-12-29T06:36:30.712-06:002009-12-29T06:36:30.712-06:00Hey Annonymous, did your mother have any children ...Hey Annonymous, did your mother have any children that lived? Seriously, congrats on how you've done with that Anencephaly. And at least come up with a clever Alias instead of being "Annonymous" which is no better than that guy who drills a peephole in the men's room.<br />If there's really Global Warming howcome the President had to leave the Global Warming Conference early in order to beat the Blizzard approaching DC??? An Effin FALL Blizzard by the way. NFL games were delayed, and Oh, never mind, if The Marxist Stream Media told you Barney Frank liked Pussy you'd buy it...<br />I could use some Global Warming to tell you the truth, it was colder than Nancy Pelosi's surgically altered Nipple in Atlanta yesterday, while the President (Peace be upon Him) was sitting on his Ass in Hawaii, heck at least Bush chopped Wood,<br /><br />Blow Me, <br /><br />FrankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-30663903927933634192009-12-29T00:49:37.979-06:002009-12-29T00:49:37.979-06:00Not Just One Rotten Climate Apple
A complication ...<a href="http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2009/12/not-just-one-rotten-climate-apple.html#iceCore" rel="nofollow"><b>Not Just One Rotten Climate Apple</b></a><br /><br />A complication in the story of Climate Change. Unmodified temperature records from ice cores DO show a recent warming. But, that warming over 80 years (0.7 F, 2/3 degree) is not unusually rapid, or large, and is only a blip when compared to past and distant past temperatures. See the story at the above link, or the graphs <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/09/hockey-stick-observed-in-noaa-ice-core-data/" rel="nofollow"><b>directly at WattsUpWithThat</b></a><br /><br />This recent increase in temperature is only alarming when you cut off the graph to ignore past temperature changes, or change the data to do the same thing, and expand the scale to make .7 degree look like a ski slope.<br /><br />The email phrase "hide the decline" (from the ClimateGate emails) did not refer to global temperature, as that has indeed increased slightly, probably from solar variation. It referred to the tree ring data itself, which has indicated lower recent temperatures, despite slighly higher MEASURED temperatures. This invalidates the tree ring data, since it is measurably out of sync with actual temperature records.<br /><br />By the way, even the tree ring data is alarming only when you include just the right trees, or even just one "special" tree, to fraudulently push the Warming story.<br /><br />So, the confusion. Global temperature has increased slightly, but this is only part of a natural, unpredictable fluctuation. Tree ring data is invalidated by comparison to real temperature measurements, but is pushed as the major data for "showing" that the Earth was calmly cooler in the last 2000 years.<br /><br />More simply put, we don't get upset by winter and summer because we recognize the natural fluctuation and we adapt. Trees are highly variable plants that react to lots of factors, of which temperature is just one. Do you want to pay more for gasoline because the trees are growing well?<br /><br />-- --<br />To Anonymous,<br /><br />Is it so hard to have doubts about the government line? Governments have a strong interest in scaring the public to raise taxes and favor new industries, those that politicians have conveniently invested in ahead of the new policies.<br /><br />Al Gore is worth about $1 billion, if his investements succeed. He won't debate, but did say that the Earth's mantle (say 30 miles down) had a temperature of millions of degrees. The real temperature is a few thousand.<br /><br />The Climategate scientists refused to release their data and methods, and conspired to stop publication of skeptical papers on climate and to suppress the publication of criticism of their own papers. Why the secrecy and collusion, to support something that they believe is compelling?<br /><br />Anonymous, you may be ignorant of science, and ready to accept the coordinated reports of politically connected societies, but the behavior of those so-called scientists must raise some doubt.Andrew_M_Garlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02855052302054611917noreply@blogger.com