tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post863465019482396418..comments2024-02-18T01:56:38.508-06:00Comments on M.D.O.D.: Part IV, ER85 Contributes911DOChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-30275880410814755552009-05-31T02:05:41.873-05:002009-05-31T02:05:41.873-05:00Thanks!
I agree completely Peggy. I think it's de...Thanks!<br /><br />I agree completely Peggy. I think it's demise was inevitable.<br /><br />-85erdoc85https://www.blogger.com/profile/06373340227068589953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-76877358867884544892009-05-30T22:35:55.942-05:002009-05-30T22:35:55.942-05:00Love your answers. Especially to #7. I think had...Love your answers. Especially to #7. I think had the Civil War not erupted, slavery would have ended, ultimately, with mechanization of agriculture.PeggyUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-6974378852444546932009-05-25T02:43:17.495-05:002009-05-25T02:43:17.495-05:00You seem to like the simple answers that you were ...You seem to like the simple answers that you were taught in Junior High. But at the risk of challenging you to think, I'll go out on a limb......I know I'll regret it.<br /><br />As a matter of fact, the Civil War WAS about the South's beliefs that upon joining the Union, they did not relinquish their right to self-government. It was even this belief that led them to believe that they had the right to secede from the Union.<br /><br />According to the 10th Amendment, all powers not expressly delegated to the United States by the Constitution were left to the individual States (I paraphrase). Though interpretations varied widely, it is of note that James Madison (Federalist #10,32, & 45) & Thomas Jefferson, the two founding fathers with arguably the greatest contributions to the documents on which our Republic are based both argued for a weaker Federal Government and Stronger State's Rights.<br /><br />The Confederate Constitution expressly emphasized the rights of the sovereign & independent states. So, to say that the war was not fought over State's Rights ignores the basic history.<br /><br />Now, that said...it is obvious that the major state's right being fought over WAS slavery. But to say that the war was fought over slavery is very simplistic and ignores the economic and sectionalism issues that caused great anxiety and hostility between the sides.<br /><br />To other issues....<br /><br />Speaking of revisionist history. So, I guess the North was pure in this whole conflict? No one seems to mention that a few decades earlier the North also participated in slavery (in fact New Jersey didn't abolish it until 1865). As the Northern economy became more industrial, the economic "need" for an enslaved labor force died away. This had not yet happened in the South.<br /><br />Also, one tires of hearing how the "moral North" rode into the South to rescue the slaves. Fact is that the slavery frictions were over the expansion of slavery into new territories and the sectionalism fears of the South as they feared a greater loss of political representation. <br /><br />The war began with an attack on Union troops in 1861. The first two years of the war dealt with revenge for the attack and attempts to reclaim the lost territories. The Emancipation Proclamation wasn't signed until 1863, and though I believe it had a genuine moral purpose, it was also a calculated political move to demoralize the South.<br /><br />Let's also not take the argument so far as to say that the North wished to free the slaves and provide equal rights to blacks. The majority of the North may have seen slavery as unnecessary and evil, but most did not consider blacks equal to whites. We won't even go into Abraham Lincoln's comments here.<br /><br />So, we may all interpret history differently, but let's be careful when we simplify it.<br /><br />And before you try to put words in my mouth, I am not in any way supporting, affirming, glorifying, or condoning, slavery. It was a vile, evil thing which existed in the past of America (both North and South).<br /><br />My desire to have seen the CSA succeed would be to see a Union with a weak central government and stronger state governments as I believe the US Constitution's framers intended.<br /><br />P.S. Of course gas chambers existed in Nazi Germany from the late 1930's until 1945. That has nothing to do with this discussion.erdoc85https://www.blogger.com/profile/06373340227068589953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-56955489934385071072009-05-24T23:08:15.020-05:002009-05-24T23:08:15.020-05:00Ah yes you were about to go on with your poppycock...Ah yes you were about to go on with your poppycock argument that the civil war was all about states rights correct? Let's just forget the main "right" the south was talking about was the "right" to keep slaves. Spare me your revisionist ideas of history. What's the encore? The gas chambers didn't exist in 1943?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-53221854659366567652009-05-24T18:35:36.941-05:002009-05-24T18:35:36.941-05:00Yeah, anon. That's right. The Civil War was fought...Yeah, anon. That's right. The Civil War was fought over slavery and that's all. (I think I just pulled an ocular muscle rolling my eyes).<br /><br />I try to educate the educable, but I no longer waste my time on the chronically stupid.erdoc85https://www.blogger.com/profile/06373340227068589953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-57183527506490088672009-05-24T08:25:15.661-05:002009-05-24T08:25:15.661-05:00"Sure. I'd travel to Gettysburg July 3, 1863 to fi..."Sure. I'd travel to Gettysburg July 3, 1863 to find General Robert E. Lee. I would advise him that he needed to change the angle of his cannonade since he would be firing over the largest concentration of the Union troops on Cemetary Ridge. If he'd only lower his angle of attack, there is a good chance that 146 years later at least 13 states could be living up to the ideals of the founding fathers."<br /><br />Ahh yes the good old days.....Slavery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-89836025758339717822009-05-22T17:16:57.636-05:002009-05-22T17:16:57.636-05:00Hey E and 911, remember my velvet Elvis? I loved ...Hey E and 911, remember my velvet Elvis? I loved that painting. Had it over the fireplace. Ah the good ole' days. <br />I agree with the book destroy. It takes a mom and dad, not a village.shrodingers cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04020541322469047041noreply@blogger.com