tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post9148653539037535220..comments2024-02-18T01:56:38.508-06:00Comments on M.D.O.D.: Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know About911DOChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-10795153338425274912008-11-18T06:30:00.000-06:002008-11-18T06:30:00.000-06:00Thank you once again for the big coffee stain down...Thank you once again for the big coffee stain down the front of my shirt!! You are wonderfully funny!Gia's Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482742283418885642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-49540370822142247662008-06-06T03:03:00.000-05:002008-06-06T03:03:00.000-05:00Dear ..., You are right to call Dr. Zahari on his ...Dear ..., <BR/>You are right to call Dr. Zahari on his intolerance. He is a hypocrite. At last year's Secretly Complimentary Alternative Medicine Show I caught him bathing in a mixture of baby harp seal and calf's blood. He then drank a slurry of rhinoceros and tiger penis powder mixed with Polar Bear mother's milk. He would not tell me what he was doing this for, but did mention something about someone named Ponce de Leon and immortality.DRXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03768368031163554041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-7228998695626833372008-06-05T20:42:00.000-05:002008-06-05T20:42:00.000-05:00Well perhaps the "Ted-ster" should have gotten her...Well perhaps the "Ted-ster" should have gotten herbal therapy instead. I'd love to hear that mouthpiece say he could cure him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-22340805590664444802008-06-05T17:45:00.000-05:002008-06-05T17:45:00.000-05:00Perhaps my opinion will be unpopular, but maybe th...Perhaps my opinion will be unpopular, but maybe this is a Darwinian way of weeding out the stupid people? If you buy into the whacked out notion that the medical professionals are "out to get you (and your money)" and that unregulated, unsubstantiated herbal products are the way to go-- hey buddy, go for it. Soon there'll be more air for the rest of us.<BR/><BR/>I had an aunt diagnosed with cancer and she chose the homeopathic route. She died less than a year later, having realized what a dumb decision it was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-72210926528834532932008-06-04T18:24:00.000-05:002008-06-04T18:24:00.000-05:00Wow, this post has sparked quite the debate. Dr. Z...Wow, this post has sparked quite the debate. <BR/>Dr. Zahari, I agree with pretty much everything you stated. Not all (but most) type II diabetics are overweight & lazy though. My father in law, is 6'3", 190 lbs soaking wet. He was diagnosed with adult onset a few yrs ago, he's 73. He was pissed when his doctor told him & blatantly stated 'only fat people get diabetes'. It was his eating habits that got him into this mess. The amount of carbs this man consumed daily would make 'The Fridge' Perry jealous. BTW, he ambulates often & is active for a 73 yr old with a Hx of polio. OTOH, I am a 38 yr old with Crohn's, I've been on countless bouts of steroid therapy (no more thank goodness), am 5'9" and weigh 320--150 of that was just due to steroid use. I figured sooner or later the roids would mess up my pancreas. I have blood work done at lest 4 times a yr, my fasting BS are usually 85 or less, & my trigs are even below the norm. I have a sedentary, stressful career in healthcare, & don't work out very often. I've been at the same weight for the last 10 yrs. Go figure. For disease maintenance, I have tried traditional Chinese medicine, curcumin, teas, coconut oil, etc & all have made some positive impact on my health. But none of them have been as significant as the benefits I get from Remicade. It has been my saviour. With the supervision of my PCP & GI doc I'm starting an exercise program. I stick with whatever works & my docs agree, but I would never give up their recommended treatment altogether to follow someone like Trudeau.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-20358544830913071152008-06-04T18:02:00.000-05:002008-06-04T18:02:00.000-05:00Dear doctors,Apparently, you are responsible for c...Dear doctors,<BR/><BR/>Apparently, you are responsible for creating chocolate.<BR/><BR/>Whatever you make, it isn't enough.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.Rogue Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07598646309630074992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-77635831663746933822008-06-04T13:16:00.000-05:002008-06-04T13:16:00.000-05:00Anonymous said... Mr. Zahari...I would say YOU ...<B>Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> Mr. Zahari...I would say YOU people are ignorant regarding the use of natural remedies. I know it will never change because you will never be taught eastern medicine techniques in U.S. medical schools. Putting designer chemicals into your body MUST be better than naturally-occuring substances. </B><BR/>Anon, it's this type of blather that makes my skin crawl...and I'm a practitioner of several integrative modalities. Trudeau is a nutter. Anyone who advocates abandoning medicine in favor of cinnamon or coffee enemas has to be walking way south of sanity.<BR/><BR/>Sure, Lofty's "you fucking idiot alternative/complementary medicine lemmings" comment made me wince because we tend to get lumped into one big group. But I also understand his comments as well. He's a man of science, and he wants proof that some of the crazy things we do actually make scientific sense. For instance, I can't put Reiki under a microscope and prove its efficacy. But I do see the huge difference in the amount of pain meds patients use post surgery. When I do Reiki on a patient who was freaking out before surgery actually doze off without meds, I don't have to get all agro at docs. I know it works, and I'm good with that.<BR/><BR/>We're coming into a very traditional territory that's based on science, so we're not gonna have the welcome mat tossed out at us. We're often seen as being the invaders from Mars, and we have to prove ourselves.<BR/><BR/>But at all times, I've never been a believer that we turn our backs on medicine, and this is what rightly drives docs up the wall. If I had cancer, you can bet your biodegradable Birkenstocks that I'll get radiation, chemo, whatever my doc recommends. But I'll also round that out with Reiki, vitamins, guided imagery, and diet. So lighten up, Francis (sorry, it's a line from Stripes), and try a little empathy. Otherwise you make yourself and me look like idiots. Wait. You are an idiot. Hmm...I feel a blog post coming on...Lynn Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02958402288888144904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-40712768493571418092008-06-04T11:38:00.000-05:002008-06-04T11:38:00.000-05:00I'm going to come up with alternative medicine for...I'm going to come up with alternative medicine for ambulance abusing assholes. <BR/><BR/>Why is it the people who buy these books are the ones who spend the most time in the back of my rig and in your offices?Cheating Deathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07813533035326719783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-79884822733793098962008-06-04T10:57:00.000-05:002008-06-04T10:57:00.000-05:00well, I guess you can plant some white willow tree...well, I guess you can plant some white willow trees in front of the ER so when your frequent flyers come in with pain you can tell them you want them to try the new Kevin Trudeau approved 'naturopathic' method. Script reads: 1 strip tree bark, chew PRN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-42086246461414309812008-06-04T10:55:00.000-05:002008-06-04T10:55:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Amelia Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296224743117560163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-9598963590401974482008-06-04T10:09:00.000-05:002008-06-04T10:09:00.000-05:00Meta,Schmeta, Patrick Swayze got it on with Jennif...Meta,Schmeta, Patrick Swayze got it on with Jennifer Grey in "Dirty Dancing" 25 years later he's got Pancreatic Cancer. Coincidence? maybe in your naive world, but that lag time fits perfectly with an oncogenic slow virus. I'm currently checking the fate of everyone thats scored with Jennifer Grey. Yeah, they thought Tesla was crazy too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-80422315062912631372008-06-04T09:41:00.000-05:002008-06-04T09:41:00.000-05:00Mr. Zahari...I would say YOU people are ignorant r...Mr. Zahari...I would say YOU people are ignorant regarding the use of natural remedies. I know it will never change because you will never be taught eastern medicine techniques in U.S. medical schools. You win! Putting designer chemicals into your body MUST be better than naturally-occuring substances. YOU'RE RIGHT! Just go on your way believing so. I hope you take many of these chemicals yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-59277820160241536972008-06-04T07:10:00.000-05:002008-06-04T07:10:00.000-05:00"meta-analysis outweighs a 60 patient randomized t..."meta-analysis outweighs a 60 patient randomized trial published in Diabetes Care in 2003"<BR/><BR/>Do you even know what a meta-analysis is? <BR/><BR/>Me-thinks this is a case of when bad statistics happen to good people who only want to google the subject then read only the abstracts then rant and rave all over the internet.pinkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00198277802918823591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-36257466819739448592008-06-04T05:23:00.000-05:002008-06-04T05:23:00.000-05:00I'm just happy to find out that a dozen cinnamon-s...I'm just happy to find out that a dozen cinnamon-sugar donuts q day will counteract my future diabetes and high cholesterol, just like my large diet Coke counteracts my bacon cheeseburger and fries.MonkeyGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05735317323208263354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-53322383482500882022008-06-04T02:53:00.000-05:002008-06-04T02:53:00.000-05:00i do believe i have caught dr trudeau in a logical...i do believe i have caught dr trudeau in a logical contradiction.<BR/><BR/>i am still at work at 3am... one hour late... waiting on things... just reading this again... <BR/><BR/>if one has a disease then one has been diagnosed, if one has been diagnosed one has seen a doctor or practitioner of some sort, so, according to trudeau, one should trust us for the diagnosis. he does not say, for instance, that diabetes does not exist, merely that we are not trustworthy regarding treatment of said disease. <BR/><BR/>if so, why would you trust us in the first place to diagnose you? why not say, for instance, that diabetes is not a disease but rather an infestation of little red gnomes in the solar plexus (which only us doctors know by the way)?<BR/><BR/>QED motherfucker.911DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-45379325105068158712008-06-04T01:22:00.000-05:002008-06-04T01:22:00.000-05:00For anyone that cares:Here's that initial study th...For anyone that cares:<BR/><BR/>Here's that initial study that anonymous cites, yes, the one that doesn't control for diet-<BR/><BR/>http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/issues/issue306/cinnamondiabcare.pdf<BR/><BR/><BR/>This study-<BR/><BR/>http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/30/9/2236<BR/><BR/>carried out in the ol' US of A, found that "cinnamon taken at a dose of 1 g daily for 3 months produced no significant change in fasting glucose, lipid, A1C, or insulin levels." True, the 1st study used cinnamon doses of 1, 3, and 6 grams, but all of those levels showed the same effect. Or so they say.<BR/><BR/>Here's a sweet lil' tease (abstract only) concerning those rats Lofty mentioned,<BR/><BR/>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T5Y-49H736K-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=7eb5db8cb72a4e3bc84af5ede36e761e<BR/><BR/>and here's that lofty meta-analysis-<BR/><BR/>http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/31/1/41 <BR/><BR/>Now before people want to go makin' all these comments about shit that neither they nor I understand, citing that pretty bitch with a book, hopefully they'll try to read these studies. They'll see words like "potentiate " and "IRS-1 tyrosine phosphorylation," realize that they're lost, and mercifully, forgo the obligatory post about anecdotal miracles or conspiracy cures.21https://www.blogger.com/profile/09560786230715552515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-32965824100834686682008-06-04T00:15:00.000-05:002008-06-04T00:15:00.000-05:00*snort* You guys are killing me.*snort* You guys are killing me.Amelia Ameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296224743117560163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-30151763574221901212008-06-03T23:13:00.000-05:002008-06-03T23:13:00.000-05:00lofty, i think we need to be able to write a presc...lofty, <BR/>i think we need to be able to write a prescription for this book and have it covered by EMTALA. it's not fair that people have to pay for this.911DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-18506388227582942582008-06-03T23:08:00.000-05:002008-06-03T23:08:00.000-05:00Hey, Christine-Megan, I'm a pumper, too. I have b...Hey, Christine-Megan, I'm a pumper, too. I have been told by several of my diabetic patients that I could reverse the auto-immune destruction of my islet cells if I only took coral calcium, cinnamon, yohimbe bark extract, mangosteen juice, etc. Of course, they are all obese, poorly-controlled, insulin-resistant type 2 diabetics looking for a magical cure. Their pathetic health is really a microcosm of their lives...but they're the ones buying this RIDICULOUS bookLofty Zaharihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01424287076467507040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-2590298872151482422008-06-03T23:06:00.000-05:002008-06-03T23:06:00.000-05:00dear brian and jennifer, yes.dear brian and jennifer, <BR/>yes.911DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-46548511702817081302008-06-03T21:22:00.000-05:002008-06-03T21:22:00.000-05:00Excellent news, I'm gonna go throw out my insulin ...Excellent news, I'm gonna go throw out my insulin pump, eat a bottle of cinnamon, and go buy this book right away! <BR/><BR/>/sarcasmChristinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13564731989568599206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-32138752493529459672008-06-03T18:41:00.000-05:002008-06-03T18:41:00.000-05:00This is too much fun. YOU PEOPLE (by that I mean ...This is too much fun. YOU PEOPLE (by that I mean you fucking idiot alternative/complementary medicine lemmings) are just too much. <BR/><BR/>So...<BR/><BR/>Rat studies showed cinnamon might help improve insulin receptor action. The first study looking at results in humans (referenced by anonymous and which caused quite a stir) did NOT control for diet, DID wash patients out for 20 days, and ONLY included patients on sulfonylureas. No one takes only sulfonylureas anymore.<BR/><BR/>Meta-analysis of 282 patients from 5 studies has confirmed NO lasting effect of cinnamon on glucose levels, whole-body insulin sensitivity, or lipids in humans with type 1 OR type 2 diabetes (Diabetes Care 2008).<BR/><BR/>It is very sad to me that the bulk cinnamon farmers of Indonesia, China, and Vietnam will be so adversely affected by this damning, arrogant, conspiratory LIE published in Diabetes Care.Lofty Zaharihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01424287076467507040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-80924226289551627942008-06-03T18:02:00.000-05:002008-06-03T18:02:00.000-05:00You'll be alarmed to hear that I was looking at si...You'll be alarmed to hear that I was looking at silk moths and thinking about you. They go through this arduous process (metamorphosis, sort of like med school). These beautiful little moths emerge and stretch their wings. Unfortunately, domestication has rendered them unable to fly, and they have no working mouth parts (doctors under JCAHO). They reproduce and die. On the up side, they weren't boiled in their cocoons in a silk factory.Devorrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542045173559671539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-67114097789899633942008-06-03T17:44:00.000-05:002008-06-03T17:44:00.000-05:00anon.great. let's talk. lofty, add as you see fit....anon.<BR/><BR/>great. let's talk. lofty, add as you see fit. <BR/><BR/>sixty patients is a pitifully small number especially to draw large conclusions BUT this is an interesting study. <BR/><BR/>i bet it was interesting enough to diabetes physicians to look at it more closely. since this study was in 2003 i would be surprised if this has not happened in a definitive fashion, but i will defer to dr zahari who is smarter than i am and more up to speed on diabetes care. <BR/><BR/>this is because there are two kinds of diabetic patients in the ER, ones with sugars that are way too high, and ones with sugars that are way too low. other than that i don't speak from a position of expertise. <BR/><BR/>note first the 'objective' of the study. is was not to find out if cinammon could replace traditional therapies for non-insulin requiring diabetics, merely to see if it improved fasting SBG and lipids. so, no one is saying here that cinammon is a diabetes "cure". <BR/><BR/>second. there does not seem to be a dose dependent effect for the cinammon. i may be reading too much into the abstract, but that's what is seems like. <BR/><BR/>third. i don't see in the abstract what the proposed mechanism for cinammon is, and i do not see what it's pharmacology is. ie. aspirin will effect the bodies platelets for weeks, but who knows what cinammon does? is it processed by the kidney, liver, or does it simply pass through with no absorption?<BR/><BR/>what i'm getting at, especially with a 20 day wash-out period, is that this 'effect' from cinammon might be explained by other factors and further studies would be needed to tease these out. <BR/><BR/>that being said, let's assume that cinammon is, in fact, the sole reason for the apparent improvement of the subjects in the study arm. <BR/><BR/>for adult onset (type 2) diabetics, i would guestimate a fsting BS somehwere in the 140 to 180 range if they are poorly controlled. therefore even a 30% reduction in fasting SBG makes these levels a modest improvement lowering FBG to 100 to 130 or so. THAT is significant, AND, if reproducible, would make me want to be on cinammon if i were a type 2 diabetic. <BR/><BR/>here's what happened and this is a guess that lofty can either tell me is correct or not...<BR/><BR/>this study excited those involved in long term diabetic managment. the results, like cold fusion, could not be reproduced OR in future studies or in the meta-analyes lofty mentioned, it was found that cinammon was not the causative factor of the good results above. <BR/><BR/>this, OR, dr zahari and specialists like him, are squashing the information because they want the money (that would otherwise go to cinammon manufacturers) for themselves. knowing lofty like i do, i think he's in on the anti-cinammon conspiracy and being a simple car-crash physician myself i am just a follower of the status quo.<BR/><BR/>cinammon for all!911DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466669111561150174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24021163.post-74816246242664686402008-06-03T17:24:00.000-05:002008-06-03T17:24:00.000-05:00Here you go Mr. Doctor 911. Diabetes Care 2003. ...Here you go Mr. Doctor 911. Diabetes Care 2003. ENJOY!!!<BR/> <BR/>OBJECTIVE—The objective of this study was to determine whether cinnamon improves blood glucose, triglyceride, total cholesterol, HDL cholesterol, and LDL cholesterol levels in people with type 2 diabetes. <BR/><BR/>RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS—A total of 60 people with type 2 diabetes, 30 men and 30 women aged 52.2 ± 6.32 years, were divided randomly into six groups. Groups 1, 2, and 3 consumed 1, 3, or 6 g of cinnamon daily, respectively, and groups 4, 5, and 6 were given placebo capsules corresponding to the number of capsules consumed for the three levels of cinnamon. The cinnamon was consumed for 40 days followed by a 20-day washout period. <BR/><BR/>RESULTS—After 40 days, all three levels of cinnamon reduced the mean fasting serum glucose (18–29%), triglyceride (23–30%), LDL cholesterol (7–27%), and total cholesterol (12–26%) levels; no significant changes were noted in the placebo groups. Changes in HDL cholesterol were not significant. <BR/><BR/>CONCLUSIONS—The results of this study demonstrate that intake of 1, 3, or 6 g of cinnamon per day reduces serum glucose, triglyceride, LDL cholesterol, and total cholesterol in people with type 2 diabetes and suggest that the inclusion of cinnamon in the diet of people with type 2 diabetes will reduce risk factors associated with diabetes and cardiovascular diseases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com